Should help people get access to the podcast.

“I think that’s considered a bug isn’t it?”

- Dave Harms

“If you learn everything, then you know everything.”

- Bruce Johnson

Hosts

Ken “Deep Assign” Wragg (http://www.agedcaresoftware.com)

Dave “Clarion Sharp” Harms (http://www.clarionmag.com)

Bruce “He Didn’t Know That” Johnson (http://www.capesoft.com)

Stu “I Need More Diet Coke” Andrews (http://clarionfolk.com)

Some Of The Things We Talk About

• Ken’s “Deep Assign” tip
• Dave’s work with Clarion Sharp and Webish Templates
• 600 Pages Of Manual
• The new Clarion 7 version
• My girl’s coming in fighting about a toy

Hosts

Dave Harms

• http://www.clarionmag.com

Ken Wragg

• http://www.agedcaresoftware.com

Bruce Johnson

• http://www.capesoft.com

Kim Davies

• http://www.agedcaresoftware.com

Stu Andrews

• http://clarionfolk.com

Some Of The Things We Talk About

• Dave’s Pondcasting App
• Highlights from the year past
• What we’re looking forward too in the new year

“I certainly don’t want to figure out how the .Net component works, or the ActiveX component works .. If I can put a template wrapper in and spend my time focusing on the applications functionality, not the development tool behind it.”

- Kim Davies

• Download original (50 meg)
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• 43 minutes long

Hosts

Kim Davies

• http://www.agedcaresoftware.com

Ken Wragg

• http://www.agedcaresoftware.com

Dave Harms

• http://www.clarionmag.com

Bruce Johnson

• http://www.capesoft.com

Stu Andrews

• http://clarionfolk.com

Some Of The Things We Talk About

• The 3rd Party Community and the new Clarion products
• Listening to Bruce eat chocolate and cough a lot
• Clarion# and Custom Controls
• ClarionMag’s latest poll regarding use of Legacy/ABC Development

“You get to see your code in the context of the code around it. That’s not something that many systems offer you.”

- Bruce Johnson

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• 47 Minutes Long

Hosts

Ken Wragg

• http://www.agedcaresoftware.com

Bruce Johnson

• http://capesoft.com

Stu Andrews

• http://clarionfolk.com

Some Of The Things We Talk About:

• Clarion 7
• Conversion from Clarion 7 to Clarion .Net
• The Entry Level Barrier to Programming is low. Yet Programming is much harder.

“What I like about being able to keep those windows open <<the Template files>> .. as long as they’re open I still have undo.”

- Dave Harms

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Hosts

Bruce Johnson

• http://www.capesoft.com

Dave Harms

• http://www.clarionmag.com

Stu Andrews

• http://clarionfolk.com

Some Of The Things We Talk About:

• Clarion 7
  • Templates
  • Appgen
  • Using different Clarion versions within the 7 IDE
  • Real Undo

WARNING: This is a large mp3 file, 70+ megs. Apologies, I’ll be trimming the structure for next time.

Hosts

Bruce Johnson

• http://www.capesoft.com
• http://www.clarionshop.com

Dave Harms

• http://www.clarionmag.com

Kim Davies

• http://www.agedcaresoftware.com

Stu Andrews

• http://clarionfolk.com

Some Of The Things We Talk About:

• Nettalk 5
• Clarionmag rewrite
• Marketing ideas for Clarion
• Important “Support” lessons
• And the upcoming release of the Appgen

We’re recording the new Clarion Folk Lore podcast tonight. Sans Rastus :). If you’ve got any thoughts about what you’d like to hear us talk about, then please send them to me, stu (at) clarion folk (dot) com.

For anyone who doesn’t know who Rastus is, and would like to (you know who you are), check the first three Clarion Folk Lore podcasts in the archives here.

It was a big success!

So we are gearing up to record the first official podcast next week.

My question to you today is:

What topic would you like discussed?

[audio:2008-04-16/ClarionFolkLore-003.mp3]

Download: Here (16:07 mins)

URLs

• Top Blog Post:
• Negative Criticism post – http://tymesaid.com/negative-critisism-comes-in-all-forms-deal-with-it
• Top Web Site:
• Viget, Design blog – http://www.viget.com/inspire/
• News:
• NetTalkCentral  – http://www.nettalkcentral.com
• Outside The Blue Triangle:
• Google Application Engine – http://code.google.com/appengine/
• Team Viewer – http://www.teamviewer.com

Answers

1. What does MEMBER() do vs. MEMBER(‘MyApp.clw’)

Every module needs to either have a PROGRAM statement or a MEMBER statement.

The main module of an EXE/DLL/LIB will have the PROGRAM statement. All others will have a MEMBER statement of some form.

- The form, MEMBER(‘MyApp.CLW’) tells the module to use the global scope of MyApp.CLW

- The form, MEMBER() has no shared scope what so ever. This form is useful for generic code, these days typically for CLASSes

2. What is the purpose of having a MAP, when it has no procedures in it?

A MAP is used to declare prototypes for procedure. However an empty MAP isn’t quite as empty as it seems.

Every MAP brings in %cwroot%\libsrc\BUILTINS.CLW
   so

   MAP
   END

   becomes

   MAP
     INCLUDE(‘BUILTINS.CLW’),ONCE
   END

Other files that are brought in:
   – EQUATES.CLW  (found in %cwroot%\libsrc)
   – Win32.LIB    (found in %cwroot%\lib)

3. How do you make a QUEUE of QUEUEs ?

You’ll need to use ,TYPEd Queues, and you’ll (typically) use NEW / DISPOSE .

   At it’s core:
   qtChild QUEUE,TYPE
   Name           STRING(42)
                   END

   ParentQ  QUEUE
   ID                  LONG
   Children     &qtChild
                       END

   Here a field of the ParentQ is a reference to another queue. Typically as you’re doing the ADD()s to the parent, you’ll either:
   a) ParentQ.Children &= NULL
   b) ParentQ.Children &= NEW qtChild  !instantiate a new one
   c) ParentQ.Children &= SomeChildQ   !already instantiated

   Remember when you’ve used NEW to instantiate, you are responsible for the matching DISPOSE, so typically when you’re doing DELETE(ParentQ) or wish to FREE(ParentQ) you will want to first DISPOSE(ParentQ.Children).

   qtFolder QUEUE,TYPE
   Name       STRING(FILE:MaxFileName)
   Path       STRING(FILE:MaxFilePath)
   ShortName  STRING(13)
   Date       LONG
   Time       LONG
   Size       LONG
   Attrib     BYTE
   SubFolders &qtFolder
            END

   Above is an example of a structure for a queue of queues, where the child queue is of the same structure as the parent queue.

   These sorts of structures lend themselves to recursive coding, however it’s not required.