Clarion Folk

A couple of weeks back I took the plunge and ordered my CSP upgrade. I’ve been working solidly in Clarion 7 since then. These are my (please note FIRST) impressions.

What I’ve done:

• Converted a medium size project from C6.3 to Clarion 7.1
• At the same time (why do i do these things?) I decided to split the app into Data DLL and three separate main exes.
• The app has most of the Capesoft templates attached in some way or another, plus PDFTools (was 3, then in amongst all this i upgraded to 4), and some other 3rdParty templates.
• The system is primarily two Nettalk Webserver apps. So it doesn’t have a lot of the 3rd-Party templates that might normally be associated with desktop development.

In hindsight, I was ordering a complete roast cow instead of just a steak. Doing the conversion AND breaking apart the app AND upgrading 3rd-Party templates .. It shouldn’t have worked.

But after some mucking about (a couple of days), everything got sorted out.

The biggest trouble I had was not with the conversion but with some logic I forgot about with breaking an app into dlls+exes.

Thoughts:

• I’m not having much trouble with the IDE. There are some “scratch-your-head” design decisions, sure. But overall, I’m now comfortable and much more agile (read rapid development) than in Clarion 6. And I was quick in 6.
• Most of the issues I have with Clarion 7 are problems that will be fixed. Like remembering how I had my embed options. Or being able to Generate, Make and Run the selected application.
• Some of the stuff that bugged me because it was different to Clarion 6 is now process I couldn’t do without. Double-clicking on a procedure .. Gold.
• Of course, some stuff just will always be there. Getting to the Nettalk Options can be a bit of a pain. You have to click on quite a few buttons to get there. But that’s okay. I’m okay with that, because overall, it’s still much faster to make stuff in Clarion 7.
• It is a worry to hear about folk having heaps of problems. My machine is pretty new, but I thrash it good. I don’t have any answers for folk having the problems .. Mine works. Not very heartening for you though.

Tips To Begin With:

• Turn off code completion. Seriously. It just gets in the way.
• Turn indentation to “Automatic”.
• “Unpick” all the panels.
• Except when compiling, then you probably want to pick the Output panel. There seems to be some kind of wierdness with it minimising after compilation when unpicked.
• If you’ve got a decent sized screen, forget about the buttons on the right and go with the double-click to open the procedure up. Far quicker than tracking your mouse across the screen.
• Until they get some “embed option memory” in, get used to having your embeds ALWAYS open up fully every time, unless you check “Show Filled ONLY”. This will remember the setting for that procedure, and only while the app is open. Close it down and open again, it’ll go back to default.
• MOST IMPORTANT: Be okay with what it is at the moment. I get frustrated easily, but I also can focus hard on getting a result. You have to be okay with the glitches. I know, it’s not ideal, and the SV history etc etc .. But you have to get over it if you want to work in Clarion 7.
• And really, you should. In my experience (limited granted), it’s already made me a lot more productive.

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We arrived in Eden around 6.30pm last night, and after unpacking went up to the restaurant which is in the same building as the conference room.

Yup, it’s been a long time since I’ve posted here.

The Clarion Aussie Devcon 2009 is currently underway. The Training days finished up yesterday (Thursday), and this morning a lot of us went on a Whale Watching trip out around the bays. Mmmmm, whale blubber.

This afternoon the Conference starts in proper. We’ve got a massive weekend chocka-clock full (see Schedule here).

I’ve already heard a lot of great things about Clarion 7 and .NET. It seems like there’s the possibility of Clarion 7.1 being released to Conference members by the end of the weekend (possibility, not certainty).

Last night at dinner Bob Foreman convinced me of the importance of the mindset. I’m going to fire back into Clarion 7 with fervour.

I hope to post some more throughout the weekend. I’ll be trying to get some “Mini” interviews done on the iPhone.

I’m not sure about the future of Clarion Folk, but at least for this weekend it’ll be getting some content :)

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“I think that’s considered a bug isn’t it?”

- Dave Harms

“If you learn everything, then you know everything.”

- Bruce Johnson

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Hosts

Ken “Deep Assign” Wragg (http://www.agedcaresoftware.com)

Dave “Clarion Sharp” Harms (http://www.clarionmag.com)

Bruce “He Didn’t Know That” Johnson (http://www.capesoft.com)

Stu “I Need More Diet Coke” Andrews (http://clarionfolk.com)

Some Of The Things We Talk About

• Ken’s “Deep Assign” tip
• Dave’s work with Clarion Sharp and Webish Templates
• 600 Pages Of Manual
• The new Clarion 7 version
• My girl’s coming in fighting about a toy

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This video is codenamed “Bart Allen”

This time we add System Tray functionality via a 3rd-Party template.

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This has been an excellent series to do, and has only whetted my appetite for more.

If you have any ideas for what you’d like to see in Video (and not limited to Clarion 7), please leave a comment, email me, or get on the Skype channel .. Contact details here, http://clarionfolk/contact.

What Would You Like To See In The Next Clarion Folkview Video Series?

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