Clarion Folk

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Download: Here (1 hour, 21 mins)

WARNING: This is a large mp3 file, 70+ megs. Apologies, I’ll be trimming the structure for next time.

Hosts

Bruce Johnson

• http://www.capesoft.com
• http://www.clarionshop.com

Dave Harms

• http://www.clarionmag.com

Kim Davies

• http://www.agedcaresoftware.com

Stu Andrews

• http://clarionfolk.com

Some Of The Things We Talk About:

• Nettalk 5
• Clarionmag rewrite
• Marketing ideas for Clarion
• Important “Support” lessons
• And the upcoming release of the Appgen

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And many huzzah’s were voiced!

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Although there have been pre-release versions for a while now, this is the official 4.30 release.

It contains a crazy number of good things, including:

• New Examples, including a SOAP Server
• Session can now be optionally locked to the IP Address
• AddLog has arrived! You can now call the method and have it log to the Window (and/or) Disk.
• Read onwards for more, NetTalk Version History

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Over on NetTalk Central, there’s a good thread about how to make a download link “Save” the file in the browser, rather than the browser “viewing” it.

Bruce’s answer, the first one, is to convince the browser so that it doesn’t know what to do with the file.

The discussion continues on from there with some code examples and further problems.

Read on here!

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There’s some good discussion centering on web development going on at NetTalk Central.

One of the threads has some folk talking about using the Aptana IDE with Ext 2.0 (Javascript Library), inside the NetTalk WebServer.

Further, if you install Spket you can get proper code completion for Ext within the Aptana interface.

Javascript libraries (Ext, YUI, Scriptaculous, Prototype, and more here) are all the rage, and have been for more than a year now. They provide desktop-ish functionality within the boundaries of the web. That’s a fantastic thing.

But what people forget is that the web is _not_ the desktop. There will always be things the web cannot do that the desktop can. There will always be things the desktop can’t do that the web can. At least until Google takes over and Borgs all desktops and the web, assimilating into one gigantic organism.

I like the differences. And I like that you can meld the two together, playing off both sets of strengths.

NetTalk WebServer gives us the ability to weave desktop functionality into the web. You can’t do everything. You cannot make a desktop program with the desktop paradigm of browse and form windows.

But wait! “What’s this?” you say. NetTalk WebServer can so create Browses and Update Forms.

Yes. It can. But it’s still the web. The Browse window is not “open” while the Form Update window is “open”. The web has single direction. We have Session Vars to compensate, and the almighty “Back” button .. but none of these will ever make it exactly the same.

And that is good. We should embrace this as we develop in NTWS.

You can only go onward and upwards, never backwards

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